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Claudia Osyn Limited Existance 1102	Posted - 2015.03.18 07:05:26 - [1] - Quote Did you really just quote Gutter press, a satire news program, as Gallente propaganda? Wow. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn Limited Existance 1102	Posted - 2015.03.18 20:27:18 - [2] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: Claudia Osyn wrote: Did you really just quote Gutter press, a satire news program, as Gallente propaganda? Wow. It doesn't matter the source of the information, as it has a tendency to spread. Even said as a satire, it must be stopped, pointed out and rooted on the sight. Luckily for us, there is no such ridiculous "freedom of speech" in the State and all citizens bear responsibility for what they are saying. Word can be powerful as a weapon. And although I prefer weapons as a soldier, I just can't stand such unbearable tarnishing of Caldari name by gallentean subhumans. If I can't put a bullet through their foreheads, I can point out at their lies, so readers have a chance to see other side as well, so they would have facts to study, so they would be able to dig into the problem themselves, to analyze and understand it, and not blindly believe to gallentean lies. Oddly enough, Gallente citizens are also responsible for what they say. The difference is, we believe that everyone has the right to say it. Useless dialog is normally ignored, threats are handled appropriately, and ideas of merit are given their due regardless of where they come from. And satirical news is just that, satirical. Despite your low opinion of us, we are not a stupid people, if the rest of new eden doesn't get the joke, that's their problem. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn Limited Existance 1115	Posted - 2015.04.02 23:49:16 - [3] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: < insert: Grrr, Gallente. And some foaming at the mouth, here > Good to see you back Kimmy I missed you. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn Limited Existance 1116	Posted - 2015.04.03 23:06:38 - [4] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: Rinai Vero wrote: Diana Kim wrote: Xadiran wrote: Diana Kim wrote: ...their wretched standards and inhuman ideals like freedom, democracy, individualism... I...don't even know what to think anymore. You heard it here everyone, freedom is apparently inhuman. That's the problem with you, gallenteans, you accept your brainwashing by your media that concepts like freedom, hedonism, democracy and indecency are good, and don't even to try to think and realize that they bring way more evil to the world than good. For example, said freedom is a destructive force of chaos, that destroys civilizations, philosophies, religions, sciences, rages cities and devastates planets, breaks families and implants criminality. Freedom is what turns humans into brute savage animals. And thus inhuman. Sooo... by that logic the Federation was completely in the right to punish the Caldari for demanding such a wretched and inhuman thing as freedom? Orbital bombardment, therefore, rather than being a crime against humanity... was the civilized extermination of vermin necessary to protect society from savage Caldari criminals who abandoned their humanity in their desire for the corruption of freedom. Luc Duvalier and his Ultranationalists, far from being tyrannical war criminals, are (according to Diana Kim) actually pillars of righteous civilization and family values. Also science! Thanks for clearing all that up Diana! Only a gallentean propagandist could have written such crap. We were defending our PROPERTY (as colonies), that gallentes tried to capture, and our homeworld from gallentean occupants. If you say your actions were good, maybe then WE should occupy YOUR homeworld for next 200 years and bomb it down from the orbit. I would like to see how you will start singing after that. You are talking about the colonies you built in violation of your agreement with the Federation? Those colonies? The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn The Scope Gallente Federation 1126	Posted - 2015.04.07 01:48:51 - [5] - Quote Damn, civility and courteous discourse on the IGS.... I'm just going to enjoy the irony of it happening in one of Kimmy's threads. Continue. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn The Scope Gallente Federation 1130	Posted - 2015.04.07 22:51:43 - [6] - Quote James Syagrius wrote: Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Claudia Osyn wrote: You are talking about the colonies you built in violation of your agreement with the Federation? Those colonies? I understand that the colonies breached the charter, it's not surprising since the people who built them were clearly preparing to go their own way, but shall we simply ask if the response was proportionate? No. It wasn't. Has any response in this conflict been proportionate? The answer: depends on which side of the field you're on. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn The Scope Gallente Federation 1131	Posted - 2015.04.08 01:40:08 - [7] - Quote Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Claudia Osyn wrote: James Syagrius wrote: Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Claudia Osyn wrote: You are talking about the colonies you built in violation of your agreement with the Federation? Those colonies? I understand that the colonies breached the charter, it's not surprising since the people who built them were clearly preparing to go their own way, but shall we simply ask if the response was proportionate? No. It wasn't. Has any response in this conflict been proportionate? The answer: depends on which side of the field you're on. Actually, it doesn't. Many Federal citizens are willing to concede that bombing the frak out of Caldari Prime and kicking the Caldari off their own homeworld was NOT a proportionate response. I will admit that opinion on many more acts - such as Tovil Toba's decision to ram Gallente Prime with his carrier - are subject to factional loyalties. Funny story, there's more then 2 sides to every war. The citizens may not approve of it, but the brass obviously didn't feel the same. And I'm sure there are actions taken by your government that were not popular with the people either. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 1131	Posted - 2015.04.08 03:38:27 - [8] - Quote Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Claudia Osyn wrote: Funny story, there's more then 2 sides to every war. The citizens may not approve of it, but the brass obviously didn't feel the same. And I'm sure there are actions taken by your government that were not popular with the people either. When those actions amount to bombing and invading Gallente Prime, I'll let you know. Recent events committed by my Government's leader that upset me led to me joining with others to kill those who carried out illegal orders and help depose him. I'm not defending the actions taken by the federation. Bombing Caldari Prime was overkill on a scale that should have never occurred, but retribution for -áNouvelle Rouvenor was bound to take some form. Anger tends to lead to bad choices, good PRICE campaigns make them sit with your public a bit better, though. If Heath had spent as much time wooing those that kept him in power as the Federation does, he would likely still be there. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 1133	Posted - 2015.04.10 18:53:06 - [9] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: Liam Antolliere wrote: Diana Kim wrote: And the last thing, by saying gallente started the war, I was referencing to later events, that happened about 7 years ago, not those that happened 200 years ago. Oh...you mean the part where the Caldari State invaded the Gallente Federation in order to occupy Caldari Prime? Another parrot? Caldari Prime is OURS and occupants on Caldari Prime are gallentes. We didn't "occupy" Caldari Prime. WE HAVE LIBERATED CALDARI PRIME FROM GALLENTEAN OPPRESSION. You moved military assets unauthorized through sovereign Federation space. Hence you invaded. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 1133	Posted - 2015.04.10 18:57:09 - [10] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: Claudia Osyn wrote: James Syagrius wrote: Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Claudia Osyn wrote: You are talking about the colonies you built in violation of your agreement with the Federation? Those colonies? I understand that the colonies breached the charter, it's not surprising since the people who built them were clearly preparing to go their own way, but shall we simply ask if the response was proportionate? No. It wasn't. Has any response in this conflict been proportionate? The answer: depends on which side of the field you're on. We could compensate all proportions if Caldari do to Gallente what Gallente did to Caldari. Starting with orbital bombardment of Gallente Prime and occupation it for the next 200 years, claiming whole Luminaire as Caldari only, just like gallentes did. And that will be only the start. So, how about a bit proportion compensation? We could also threaten Caldari Prime with a doomsday. But we're better then that.... It must feel horrible, being unable to personally slaughter every Gallente citizen to sate your blood lust. I pity you. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 1133	Posted - 2015.04.10 19:00:03 - [11] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: Claudia Osyn wrote: Diana Kim wrote: Liam Antolliere wrote: Diana Kim wrote: And the last thing, by saying gallente started the war, I was referencing to later events, that happened about 7 years ago, not those that happened 200 years ago. Oh...you mean the part where the Caldari State invaded the Gallente Federation in order to occupy Caldari Prime? Another parrot? Caldari Prime is OURS and occupants on Caldari Prime are gallentes. We didn't "occupy" Caldari Prime. WE HAVE LIBERATED CALDARI PRIME FROM GALLENTEAN OPPRESSION. You moved military assets unauthorized through sovereign Federation space. Hence you invaded. Have you damn read the start of this topic? I did, actually. I fail to see how any of that makes my point invalid. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 1133	Posted - 2015.04.10 19:11:43 - [12] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: Claudia Osyn wrote: Diana Kim wrote: Claudia Osyn wrote: You moved military assets unauthorized through sovereign Federation space. Hence you invaded. Have you damn read the start of this topic? I did, actually. I fail to see how any of that makes my point invalid. Okay, first military invasion after the truce was by Noir. Then, gallenteans on Caldari Prime were still invaders, left by the truce to stay there. Next, gallenteans started racist attacks against Caldari on Caldari Prime. We came and liberated our planet from gallente occupation. And in the process, invaded sovereign Federation space in violation of aforementioned truce. My point still remains valid. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 1133	Posted - 2015.04.10 19:46:01 - [13] - Quote Liam Antolliere wrote: The fact is that the Gallente on Caldari Prime were there by concession and legal agreement. The fact is that Tibus Heth used Caldari Prime to elevate himself to power by preying upon his own people's patriotism and sense of cultural pride. The fact is that the Caldari State, under the leadership of Tibus Heth, invaded the Gallente Federation in a completely illogical step simply to make a statement and hold an entire planet hostage. The fact is that the current war was started by the signing of the CONCORD Emergency Militia War Powers Act following the simultaneous invasion of Yulai and the Federation during the sabotaging of the CONCORD Emergency Response System. The fact is that despite all of your loud-mouth crying and repetition, none of these facts will change and no matter how you try to color it and change your presentation of it, the facts don't agree with your assessment. Regarding your comment on "fruitful discussions," I know the facts. Perhaps you should try learning them instead of twisting them to suit your worldview. There can be no fruitful discussions with you. This will be my last response to you. Enjoy the last word. I have this theory that Kimmy is actually a Drone in people suit. Her arguments are preprogrammed and thus won't change regardless of the topic. I have done everything from supporting her cause, trolling her, changing the topic to tasty food products, trolling her, attempting to change her mind, and trolling her. Her response always remains the same without fail: kill all Gallente, Destroy the Federation. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 1136	Posted - 2015.04.10 23:24:17 - [14] - Quote Liam Antolliere wrote: Rinai Vero wrote: C'mon Liam... I was so close to derailing us! My sincerest of apologies but even a bad thread can be salvaged if it can lead to productive conversation. I would not wish it to be said that I were unwilling to earnestly and productively discuss the precarious situation in which our peoples find themselves. Reminder: this is a Diana Kim thread/rant. Nothing good will ever come of it. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 1138	Posted - 2015.04.11 04:59:23 - [15] - Quote Xadiran wrote: Once again... Diana Kim wrote: gallenteans quarantined in their Gallente Prime More lovely contradiction from someone claiming to want a "shared" solar system. It seems I am far more capable at this reading thing than you suspect. Don't try to be clever, Diana. It doesn't suit you. What I find humorous is the fact she believes the Gallente are the entirety of the Federation. Failing to realize that the Intaki and Mannar had just as much say in our military actions, she places all the blame on the Gallente. It's adorable how misguided, narrow minded, and bigoted she is. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 1138	Posted - 2015.04.11 07:20:46 - [16] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: Xadiran wrote: Once again... Diana Kim wrote: gallenteans quarantined in their Gallente Prime More lovely contradiction from someone claiming to want a "shared" solar system. It seems I am far more capable at this reading thing than you suspect. Don't try to be clever, Diana. It doesn't suit you. Unlike you, gallentean, I am DOING instead of trying. And if you don't like my conception about shared solar system, I have an alternative. I would like this alternative better, since you owned system for about 200 years, now we can own it whole as Caldari for the next 200 years. And only after that amount of time when length of our ownership will match yours, it will become shared. That will be way more justly. No. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 1138	Posted - 2015.04.11 07:39:46 - [17] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: Tell your no to my 150mm rail nozzle, gallentean. Funny thing is, I don't need to. You can't make your little wish come true, you adorable little provist, you. The Caldari don't have the man power to push a full offensive on Federation space and hold the system. If you plan on pointing out Heath's little escapade, don't bother. The Federation is more then we'll enough equipped to deal with you. We can field Titans and may not care that your planet is in the backdrop next time. If you really want to escalate things to that point you might pay a higher price then you want. Nobody but you wants that kind of fight. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 1154	Posted - 2015.04.15 16:41:27 - [18] - Quote Ok, let's all settle down and eat some cookies. We can get along like good boys and girls if we try. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 1155	Posted - 2015.04.15 19:24:34 - [19] - Quote Really, there good cookies. I made them myself. * Holds up a tray of cookies. * The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 1158	Posted - 2015.04.16 16:56:04 - [20] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: If you don't want us to tell what to do, then get the hell our from our homeworld, get the hell our from our colonies from Black Rise, and get the hell out your media with propaganda from broadcasting outside of your Federation. Meh, you can tell us what to do all you want. Just expect us to tell you to shove it in the darkest depths of your rear end. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 1159	Posted - 2015.04.16 19:22:20 - [21] - Quote holds up a chicken This is a chicken. Holds up an egg And this is an egg. Which one came first? Doesn't matter. Gonna have me an omelet and fried chicken. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 1159	Posted - 2015.04.17 04:23:55 - [22] - Quote Omelets and fried chicken. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 1169	Posted - 2015.04.20 20:12:56 - [23] - Quote Xadiran wrote: Xadiran wrote: It's nice to people getting along here again. Let's all promise that if Kim decides to post more hate, we ignore it and keep talking about a peaceful future instead of a tumultuous past. Come on, people, we can do this... grabs popcorn, soda, and candy from concession stand and sits down for the "let's all ignore Kimmy show: part 19675" I can't begin to tell you how many times this has been attempted.... guess how many times it worked. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 1169	Posted - 2015.04.21 02:00:16 - [24] - Quote James Syagrius wrote: Vikarion wrote: Rinai Vero wrote: Hell, I won't even argue the blockade was justified. That's a matter of opinion. It was done, and the Federation deserves to be held responsible for the consequences justified or not. Our Caldari neighbors should not spend so much time and effort mincing words and spinning the optics of their own militarism. What is so hard about admitting the plain truth that the CEP initiated a military path to Caldari independence? Obviously you believe the actions of your ancestors were justified. Take responsibility. James is right, though. The future is what's most important. Well, I was about to argue, but...****...what am I to argue against? Rinai Veto, James Sygarius, I would hug you, I would hold you close -metaphorically speaking, save that that we are still at war. Look, I'm the most conservative Caldari you will meet, and I can say this. I've spoken to both the Providence directorate, and the CEP, and only Heth wished violence against you just because of your origin. I can't speak for Roden. I can only speak for what I've seen from the Federation. But were it up to me, we'd live in peace, maybe occasionally with a ego-driven-duel, and we'd all be happy, in our separate harmonies. And I am a Patriot, the most extreme of Caldari, aside from the morons like Kim. i fight...and, in the end, I will kill your countrymen. But if I can give you this, well, I will. I am sorry. I am sorry that Noir and Heth led us to this. And, you know what, I am sorry that Duvalier led us to this. We should be friends, we really should. This is such a tragedy. We have been the victims of cruel, cruel, cruel, circumstance. But surely, you understand that I must stand with my own, my own countrymen. It is my anchor, my only such. And so I will do. Msr. Vikarion, I appreciate the sentiment. Now the challenge becomes how to make the sentiment a reality. I wonder what steps might be taken next to promote this ideal. Well, not shooting at one another might be a step in the right direction. Then start going from there. Kinda hard to hear over the sound of gunfire. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Claudia Osyn Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan 1194	Posted - 2015.05.07 15:31:00 - [25] - Quote Plan Neun wrote: Why don't you hypocrate give the Minmatar Republic the opportunity to be a part of your precious Federation and treat them the same way as you did to us. l will bet a shining star that within the next 5 years the Minmatar is beoynd your stumpy boot that they will revolt from the same reasons we did. We (the State) are not your pets anymore, and you have started a 2nd war upon the State. But you can't handle the truth, and for that l feel sorry for you "we ban milk" gallentes. " Invader's blood marches through my veins like giant radioactive rubber pants! " The Minmatar have a sovereign nation, they don't need to be part of us and never have shown interest in such an arrangement. The truth is subjective. We have yet to ban milk. Your quote makes no sense. The lack of money is the root of all evil.